the president of the united states, bill clinton, said gee, they're actually serious. we negotiated the first four balanced budgets in your lifetime, the only four. we negotiated welfare reform. he vetoed it twice. we kept passing it. i'm not suggesting that we have to go to that level but they should be prepared to. if they don't have respect for themselves, if they're not prepared to use the tools of the house, the first of which is appropriations, then the republicans announce tomorrow morning the president doesn't want to negotiate, he's not going to have a domestic government on october 1st. >> why don't they just pass some bills? >> sean: i said the last time and i conceded to you and your vast experience. i said pass a bill and you said no. pass a series of bills, send them over to the senate and to the president and let them deal with it. >> and by the way, find a bunch of democratic billings that are pretty good. there's a warner bill on developing offshore oil and gas for virginia from two democratic senators. i can't figure out why the house republicans for